Agenda Packet P&Z 01/19/2012Planning & Zoning Commission
Trophy Club Entities
Meeting Agenda
100 Municipal Drive
Trophy Club, Texas 76262
Svore Municipal Building Boardroom7:00 PMThursday, January 19, 2012
Call To Order and announce a quorum.
Approval of Minutes
1.2011-673-T Review and approve minutes of the December 15, 2011, Planning and
Zoning Commission meeting.
MeetingMinutes 121511.pdfAttachments:
2.2011-674-T Review and approve minutes of the January 5, 2012, Planning and Zoning
Commission meeting.
MeetingMinutes 010512.pdfAttachments:
REGULAR SESSION
3.2011-675-T Discussion and recommendation regarding a request for approval of a
Temporary Use for Off Street Parking for Model Homes in Planned
Development No. 22, Waters Edge at Hogan’s Glen for a Period of Time
of Not Greater Than One Year. Applicant: Ashton Woods Homes
Staff Report - PZ 011912 - Ashton Woods.pdf
Plot Plan.pdf
Hogan's Glen HOA Support.pdf
Application.pdf
Attachments:
4.2011-677-T Discussion and Recommendation regarding a request for approval of a
Final Plat of Lot 1R, Block A, Trophy Club Plaza being a Replat of Lot 1,
Block A, located on Trophy Lake Drive between State Highway 114 and
Trophy Club Drive. Property Owner: Regency Centers, L.P.
Staff Report - PZ - Replat.pdfAttachments:
Adjourn
*THE BOARD MAY CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS POSTED
ITEMS AS ALLOWED BY THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, TEXAS LOCAL
GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071.
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Notice is hereby given that a quorum of the Town Council may be in attendance at
this meeting.
CERTIFICATION
I certify that the above notice was posted on the front window of the Svore Municipal
Building, 100 Municipal Drive, Trophy Club, Texas, on January 16, 2012, by 5:00 P.M.
in accordance with Chapter 551, Texas Government Code.
Carolyn Huggins
Community Development Director
If you plan to attend this public meeting and have a disability that requires special
needs, please contact the Town Secretary’s Office at 682-831-4600, 48 hours in
advance and reasonable accommodations will be made to assist you.
I certify that the attached notice and agenda of items to be considered by this Board
was removed by me from the front window of the Svore Municipal Building, 100
Municipal Drive, Trophy Club, Texas, on the __________ day of
______________________, 2011.
________________________________, Title: ___________________________
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Planning & Zoning Commission
7:00 PM Svore Municipal Building BoardroomThursday, December 15, 2011
Call To Order and announce a quorum.
COMMISSION MEMBERS:
Vice Chair James Stephens, Commissioner Mike Davidson,
Commissioner Dennis Sheridan, Commissioner Dale Forest, Chairman
Gene Hill, Commissioner Clayton Reed, and Commissioner Gary Richert
Present:7 -
STAFF PRESENT:
Carolyn Huggins, Community Development Director
Danny Thomas, Fire Chief
Scott Kniffen, Police Chief
GUESTS PRESENT:
Bill Dahlstrom, Representing the Applicant
Mike Twichell, Architect for the Applicant
Councilman Bill Rose
REGULAR SESSION
2011-569-T1.Discussion of a zoning change request for a 26.354 acre tract of land
located at the northeast corner of State Highway 114 and Trophy Club
Drive, from the current zoning of "PO" Professional Office and "CR"
Commercial Recreation to a Planned Development "PD-30" mixed use
of multi-family, retail, professional and recreational type uses.
Applicant: Jackson Walker, L.L.P. on behalf of JSB Properties, L.P.
Chairman Hill asked the applicant to make an opening statement.
Bill Dahlstrom, Jackson Walker, L.L.P. stated that they appreciate all the time
everyone, from the community as well as the staff, have put into the application. He
stated that they have made some changes to the document and he will go over them
briefly. A definition for garden apartments has been added and they are prohibited as
they do not wish to have that type of apartments in the development. A definition for
a vendor kiosk and signage has been provided. Dry cleaner plants have been
prohibited. A Performing Arts Center has been prohibited. An SUP requirement has
been added for restaurants with alcohol sales. The heights of structures have been
reduced. Provisions have been added for architectural features for the rear of
buildings along Trophy Club Drive and Indian Creek Dr. so that the rear of the
building matches the front architectural style. The multi family density has been
reduced from 1,000 to 500 units. There cannot be a stand-alone residential building;
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it must be done in conjunction with a non-residential building. The clock tower will
remain on the property (although it may be moved to a different location).
Environmental standards have been added – specifically to noise, air, and glare to
comply with the Town’s standards. The supergraphics signs have been removed.
The minimum unit size for multi family has been increased.
Chairman Hill then asked each Commissioner to express his thoughts about the
PD-30 document.
Vice Chairman Stephens: I am for the commercial development of the 26.354 acres
better known as PD-30. I think the residents are for that, I think P&Z is for that, but I
want to go on record to say that I am for the commercial development of that piece of
property. I want to help move this project forward. I don’t want to hinder it. Having
chaired two lengthy working sessions of P&Z, going over PD-30 line-by-line, I am
mystified by the applicant’s recent submittal of PD-30 which is basically its initial form
without any consideration of our comments and those two lengthy sessions. I recall
PD-27, better known as The Highlands, when we worked for months and months and
months on that project and their planners wanted a European feel for that
development, with shops and residences above. Their initial densities were 5,000
residences in almost 600 acres of land. This was rejected by P&Z. Densities were
just way above anything we have allowed in our Town. So, we fought that battle and
now The Highlands is being developed and what is being developed out there, to my
knowledge, to this day, has no naysayers. It’s really nice and it has added to the
quality and fabric of our lives here in Trophy Club. Now then, PD-30 initially asks for
approval of 1,000 multi-family units and we’ve heard they reduced that in this updated
PD-30 draft document to 500 on 26.354 acres. P&Z has said no. No multi-family
residential components in the two meetings I chaired. To my knowledge these
gentlemen have not changed their minds. Now then, regarding procedures, that’s
Section 3 of this PD, P&Z has said no to that because it will take accountability from
the hands of the City of the Town. My email has burned up. My wife is tired of
transferring them to my account. However, they have been very informative; one in
particular that impressed me was the one from Chris Mammon. He has only lived
here two and a half years but he had some insightful things to say having had
experience in the City of Irving where apartments are now a blight on that City.
Regarding procedures, current Town procedures have served us well from my
knowledge. I’ve been on the Commission for a number of years, not as long as
Chairman Hill or Mr. Reed, and P&Z to my knowledge, during my tenure of service,
we have not drug our feet on any project that has been brought to us. We ask a lot of
questions, we think it is our duty and obligation to not just roll over and say go do it,
and we look at the details, as they say the devil is in the details and so we look at
that. That’s our responsibility so that when we make a recommendation to Council
they have something that has been filtered, if you want to say it like that, or it’s been
looked over, they don’t have to deal with something that is just bing out of the bag.
We are not perfect up here and Council certainly has the right and they sometimes
do something that we didn’t recommend, but that’s their responsibility, not ours. We
are non-political. We try to keep it that way. We look at the facts, nothing but the
facts, and then we make recommendations to the Council to take action on. So that
is what is going to happen with this PD. Now then, in order to keep this project
moving in the regular session after the public hearing tonight, I will move that we
strike all references to multi-family residences, the new terminology is urban
residential; I will move that we strike that in the updated PD-30 draft document dated
12-8-11. I will also move at that same time to strike the whole procedures section,
which is section 3, of the updated PD-30 document. Those have been the two major
sticking matters for us on P&Z and, I think, the Town. In doing that, what it is going to
do is retain accountability through the standard operating procedures that have
served this Town well. I think the public, the citizens, are demanding that of us and it
is something that I feel strongly about. Now then, let me say this again. I do look
forward to a Performing Arts Center, something similar in size to the Scott Theater
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out in the Seven Corners District of Ft. Worth. I’ve been there several times. I’m a
country western blue grass fan. Don Edwards, probably the greatest living cowboy
troubadour in America today, the world today, I’ve seen him perform there and the
beauty of going to something like that as opposed to going to Texas Stadium to see
Garth Brooks, which I did once, I’ll never do that again… he’s that big [indicating with
his hands ‘very small’], the sound is terrible, the heats terrible, but at Scott Theater
Don Edwards is sitting right there [indicating with his hands ‘very close’]. I get to hear
that great tenor voice of his and his expert fingers work the frets on that acoustical
guitar. It’s just exhilarating to me to attend something like that, to take my grandchild
to something like that. I look forward to that in this PD. I also look forward to dining
with my wife. She likes to eat out. I like to eat. I like nice places to eat. I like white
linen tablecloths and white linen napkins. I like that. I like taking my extended family.
This little 15-year old granddaughter of mine, she has got me lock, stock and barrel.
We took her out to Pappadeaux last Monday night to celebrate that 15th birthday. I
look forward soon to celebrating that 16th or 17th birthday with her here in the Town
of Trophy Club at a new restaurant in PD-30 instead of having to drive and play
what’s my lane trying to get from my house to Dallas. Planner Lyle Schaller said,
many years ago, if it is not necessary to change, it is not necessary to change. The
only difference between those two statements is that subjunctive “if” in the first
statement. My conclusion at this point is it is necessary to change PD-30 as it is
submitted to us. That’s the purpose of the motion I will make in the last session,
that’s the actionable session of our meeting tonight. Now then, in light of past
meetings, unless you guys have really changed, I expect the same.
Commissioner Sheridan: I would like to be the one to second that motion to approve
it. That’s my goal. In the meantime, though, I’ve reviewed the document and with the
proviso that there is zero residential in the document and that all procedural staff
approval has been removed, I went through it and I would like to have a dialogue, a
back and forth on both of us, to resolve any issues I’ve got remaining so that I can be
the second of that motion. As an example of the complexity that is remaining, on
page 4 of the 12-8 document that I’ve reviewed, there is a definition of hardscape and
hardscape includes streets and driveways. Then you go to page 5 and there is a
definition of open space and in the definition it has that it is an amenity and the open
space definition includes hardscape. It says that amenity includes streets and
driveways and parking. Then you go to page 13 where it defines how much is
calculated in open space and I’m concerned with the open space in that calculation
including the streets. I’d like a dialogue between us to resolve my issues and I’m only
using this example as a microcosm of the issues. I’d like to go through the whole
document and say these are my concerns and talk back and forth and try to get
some type of agreement so that we can recommend approval to the Town Council of
a document tonight. Thank you Mr. Chairman.
Commissioner Reed: I pretty much concur with their comments. When we got this
latest draft, I was not only stunned but I was disgusted to see that they had
completely ignored all of the things that P&Z had spent five or six hours on reviewing
this project. I expected to see a draft come back from them that took into
consideration what we expected them to do. All we are asking them to do are follow
the rules and regulations that every developer for the past 25 years has followed here
and it’s worked just fine and there is absolutely no reason to change the process. I’ll
be brief and let the others talk.
Commissioner Davidson: Well Gentlemen, I have to say the current document was a
bit of a disappointment but at the same time I think it is worth articulating to
yourselves, the Commission, and the residents that you have in fact made several
concessions along the way. Some are fairly significant. There are other pieces that
fundamentally adjust what we do within this PD over any other PD that we have.
We’ve agreed to many of those points in our previous sessions and I think that
speaks to the Commission being insightful enough to understand that maybe some of
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our current conditions don’t necessarily apply; however with that said, I think the
overwhelming majority of the residents feel that certain pieces and parts didn’t
necessarily reflect Trophy Club and I believe, Mr. Twichell, you stated very clearly in
one of the early meetings that if you don’t have buy in from the residents then the
project is just not going to fly. I think the residents have been pretty clear in their
displeasure at least in the current offering. With that being said, what is encouraging
to me is the amount of effort that both of you put into previous developments. They
are very good developments. They are representative of what needed to happen in
those areas and have been very successful and they continue to do so. Trophy Club
is considerably different than many of those places. In order to do something similar,
it would require you to dig deep and find those changes that need to embrace the
business side of it yet still maintain the quality of life in Trophy Club that everyone
came here in the first place expecting to retain that. So, I by no means want to keep
development from taking place because we need that, but it can’t come at the
expense of the taxpayers. There are more than just a few examples of where you
bring in a development, it’s good for 5, 10, 15, maybe even 20 years, and then bad
things start happening. I think we only have to look to the current malls around the
country to see that exact type of turn take place where it’s all exciting at first and then
it falls apart so being able to maintain that unique aspect of that area and make it
desirable so that it is something that will continue to prosper along the way and
benefit the residents instead of being a burden, that’s what we are all looking for.
Now, given the fact that there’s been a lot of compromises along the way here, even
with that I would ask, is it still possible to meet all of these requirements where the
residents can be proud of the end result where the Town does in fact benefit from the
higher tax revenue but without incurring excessive overhead and really stretching our
limited resources beyond what they are capable of today. And, will you be able to, as
a developer and land owner, achieve your goals and objectives for this project. It’s a
balance and that balance is going to be reflected in this PD so thus it has to be stated
such.
Commissioner Forest: I agree with everything people have said except I don’t think
any of us have gone far enough on this. My feeling on this is that the whole PD-30
should be voted down and a new proposal brought to P&Z by the developer. There
are just so many issues that we can’t agree on that we are getting from the public that
we are going to spend more time fooling around trying to adjust this PD that we start
off from scratch again and I realize that’s not what the applicant wants to hear but if
they come out with what we’ve been talking about and agreed to it could happen very
quickly. How high are we talking about with the height of the buildings? Garden
apartments… Residential… the signage… drainage problems… mixed use…. I look
at that and I’ve read it so many times I’m sick of it. Really bothers me. These issues
have not been addressed. I’m going to make a motion whether it gets a second or
not, when it comes time to make a motion that the whole thing be turned down. I’m
not against the developer on this at all. That’s fine. But I think our job sitting up here
is to look after what the people in Trophy Club want, and what we are hearing from
the people in Trophy Club… I can’t even go to church anymore.
Commissioner Richert: As the newest member of the Planning and Zoning
Commission I was very excited when I first heard there was a planned development
being considered for this piece of property, something that has been needed for a
long period of time. I’m not being facetious. I enjoyed the statements that were
made at that time that there was a spirit of cooperation that would be shown in this
and that all parties would be heard, that there would be several public meetings, and
a lot of discussion about what was best for the community. I’ve been very
disappointed in this last draft that I’ve seen. As we painstakingly went through item
by item, our concerns and we think the citizens concerns on all the items within this
57 page document, I’ve been very disappointed that those have been virtually totally
ignored except where some have been changed to be even possibly more difficult to
work with. I agree with those that we need to go back to our document that we
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provided and the information we provided of things that we think need to be changed
and discuss those in detail so we can reach a mutual agreement. Until then I’m very
disappointed and will probably second one of the motions proposed.
Chairman Hill: My feeling on this is that the Commission, through a couple of very
lengthy and detailed meetings with the developer expressed our problems with a
number of the items in the original document. We submitted a copy of all of the
proposed modifications to the developer and what we got back 10 days ago
essentially reverted to the initial documentation that was furnished to us with some
minor modifications in regard to some apartments being eliminated and I don’t feel
we’ve gained anything in the several months we’ve been involved. So unless some
of the Commissioners have any second statements they’d like to make I believe
we’ve concluded the first part of our regular session. At this time we’ll move to the
Public Hearing.
Discussion Only - No action taken
PUBLIC HEARING
2011-599-T2.Public Hearing regarding a request for a zoning change for a 26.354 acre tract of
land located at the northeast corner of State Highway 114 and Trophy Club Drive,
from the current zoning of "PO" Professional Office and "CR" Commercial Recreation
to a Planned Development "PD-30" mixed use of multi-family, retail, professional and
recreational type uses. Applicant: Jackson Walker, L.L.P. on behalf of JSB
Properties, L.P.
Rufus Nicholson, 235 Oak Hill Drive: I am glad to hear the opinions of the
Commission and I’m very encouraged. I’m going to limit my comments to just one
area – regarding the multi-family units. I understand the developer has made some
concessions going from 1,000 to 500. If 1,000 is bad, why is 500 good? If 500 is
only half bad I cast my ballot for saying let’s not have any bad at all. There is another
comment I just heard about, increased tax revenue from the development and if that
is considered to be part of the multi-family I have a comment on that. I googled the
cost for a public school student just before I came over this evening and it looks like
it’s about $10,000 per year per student in Phoenix which is the lowest in the country,
up to $27,000 per year in New York which is the highest. I figure we probably fall
somewhere in the $12,000 per year per student, I’m not sure how that fits in, but has
this been considered in the statement that they are going to increase the tax base?
Maybe we’re going to have more expenses than we are going to gain by it.
Joel Quile, 350 Quorum: I appreciate the opportunity to speak. I want progress.
Obviously it is important to me as it is to most people here and I want the Town to
grow. Of course I want to make Beck happy because I rent from that property so
definitely want to stay in their good graces and I think they’ve been pro-Trophy Club,
they have done a lot for us, but I love this Town and long after many of us will be
gone I believe I’ll still be here. My position is this. I would urge P&Z to follow Mr.
Forest’s lead and table this or shut it down and I would go even a step further than
that, I think we don’t need to fast track it, not that you guys haven’t done due
diligence and I appreciate it greatly, you’ve worked hard, but a couple of meetings
and some powwows with you and some garage sale signs out on the property is
probably not enough in my opinion. I don’t want it to go the way of the roundabout or
the Mormon Church. I think my thought is that we put a committee together with
people on committees and Town Council as well as just citizens; I served on a citizen
board for the charter with Councilman Rose and it was highly productive. Every
Monday for a year we fought and argued with the likes of Ben Brewster and all kinds
of people and it was valuable and it helped. So that’s my idea. Take six months or a
year and really communicate well with the Town and what we are trying to do. I
preach for a living and how you start a sermon counts and how you end it counts.
Same with flying. Trophy Club started really strong. This is the last big deal for
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Trophy Club. I hope we end it really really well. I would urge us to take our time, not
rush it, and get something that is good for everybody, everyone is excited about, and
we’ll end it really really strong. I’m hoping that Mr. Stephens and I will have dinner in
a nice restaurant and he can introduce me to some country music and so I’m looking
forward to what’s going to come, but let’s take our time.
John Caldwell, 255 Oak Hill Drive: Mr. Stephens took away most of my thunder. I do
realize there are a number of reasons to be very thoughtful about how this is
approved and what we do with that 26 acres because it is the gateway to our
community. I passed out pictures of the Quorum and the disrepair of the Quorum
and my thought on that when I did that was to have people understand what can
happen with multi-family dwellings with an absentee landlord and also recognize that
the pictures are not just of those in the floodplain, those pictures are others that need
to be improved as well. I also recognize that property was there 20 or 30 years ago.
I don’t know how many of you play golf but anyone who plays golf in Trophy Club and
particularly plays the Hogan, and there are thousands of people every year who play
in tournaments here, and the first 13 holes of the Hogan are beautiful, well kept single
family dwellings, people out working in their yards and keeping their gardens, and on
14 you drive along and there are woods on the right, beautiful, well kept homes on
the left all the way down, you go across the creek and you look over to your right and
there is the Quorum. I’m not saying that I know what the answer to that is, but I know
that must be an absentee landlord and I was told there are issues here as far as
getting that resolved, however, an absentee landlord 30 years from now, and I think
the majority of us won’t be here, I think the odds are not very good that we will still be
here; we’d love to still live in Trophy Club, but from a longevity standpoint we aren’t
going to make it. Those new homes that are being built out there are younger
families and they are going to be here 30 years from now. They will want to see the
gateway to Trophy Club, and I think that 26 acres is the gateway to Trophy Club, they
will want to see that as something that represents this Town and everything that it
stands for. Ya’ll said a couple of times when you were going through this that we’ve
got rules and I think one of the rules for that property is that there are no multi-family
dwellings in that property so what the hay? Why not just follow the rules. Thank you,
Mr. Stephens. I appreciate you taking all my thunder away, I had another 15 pages
here but you took it all from me.
Susan Edstrom, 269 Oak Hill Drive: I would like my remarks made a part of the
public record. I want to commend and thank the Commissioners for their hard work
on our behalf and for hearing what residents said, listening to what we did and didn’t
want, and working to make this development something that is good for all residents.
I share in your disappointment in the lack of responsiveness to the input. The
developer and landowner clearly either didn’t hear us or you or they ignored it. So, in
my mind that verges on an insult. We’ve been asked by Council to clearly define
what we do and don’t want. They unfortunately may not have been listening well
enough to delineate between the two because at the meetings I’ve attended, both
desires have been pretty clearly stated. So, to begin with, we do not want
apartments. I don’t care if you call them an apartment, a work life unit, an urban unit
– it’s an apartment. I disagree with the developer and those working with him that
this development can’t work without them. I think part of the disconnect is they don’t
understand what Trophy Club is. We are not an urban neighborhood or a
development of disconnected gated communities. We are a cohesive bedroom
community who desires commercial development that will provide convenience to us
and those communities that surround us. We would also like to see destination type
businesses that would draw people into our community. We like the idea of a
development that would allow for walking throughout. In the last meeting the
architect referred to this as an urban development. That is not what Trophy Club is
and it makes absolutely no sense to me to say that this last 26 acres of commercial
development should be something wholly different than what we are today. Maybe
he should come out during the light of day and drive around and really see and
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understand what we are and what Trophy Club is. 500 or 1,000 units in my opinion
will not make an iota of difference when you talk about the residential numbers
already available in this area and of people eager to shop and dine. We are in the
neighborhood, Trophy Club, of about 8,000 residents. Roanoke approximately 4,000.
Westlake about 1,000. And Southlake 27,000. If the businesses on that 26 acres
cannot survive with those numbers for night time business, adding 500 apartments
will not make or break,. So you have to ask the question, who needs the
apartments? The businesses or the land owner? Second, we should not abdicate
viewership of changes out of the public eye. That is not open government. If
changes are made they should not happen behind closed doors between staff and
the land owner or developer. We have had recent cases of issues that have
occurred after decisions were made and ordinances, PDs and such were in place.
Eliminating the public accountability opens up the opportunity for additional issues if
that should come to pass. Having served on Council, I know firsthand that what we
see on a concept plan can and does often turn out to be two very different things. If
anybody would like to sit down for about 30 minutes or so with me I can give you a
half a dozen examples of what I’m talking about. So to end, I’d like to say that I hope
your recommendation to Council will not include any apartment, work life unit, or unit
by any other name that is an apartment. I hope that you will not allow abdication of
changes not to be made through the process that we have today because it keeps it
in the public eye, through your eye and through your lens before it goes to Council
and before anything is done.
Lisa Hennessey, 45 Panorama Circle: I agree with everything Susan Edstrom has
said. I’m totally on board with that. I’d like to thank Planning & Zoning for listening to
the residents concerning what we do and don’t want because it doesn’t appear that
the Town Council is, because Mayor White was quoted in the paper last week as
saying, we know what the residents don’t want, but what do they want? I don’t know
if any of you are aware, but two days ago in our local news a newscaster stated, it
looks as if apartments in Trophy Club are going to go through. This should alarm
everybody here because that means that somebody they interviewed at our Town
has led the news to believe it. If that is the case, does it really matter what the
residents want and what Planning & Zoning recommends -- if you recommend no
multi-family or urban residential? Because if the Town Council has already made up
their mind about this will you be able to make a difference? Can you change their
minds? They are elected and hired officials and they need to understand that the
residents of our Town do not want any type of multi-family dwellings and if they get
passed they can pretty much be assured that they won’t be reelected to represent the
best interests of our Town. I would also encourage Planning & Zoning to change the
wording of the hotel to include a full service restaurant so we can get a quality hotel.
The present definition of hotel as noted in the document would actually qualify
property such as a Studio 6, which is another extended stay hotel, Days Inn, Microtel
& Suites, as well as other numerous hotels of this class. I personally contacted these
hotels. They all had 24-hour staffing, a lobby and a meeting conference room. I do
not believe that Trophy Club residents are going to be comfortable with those types
of hotels being built at another Town entrance that could be up to ten stories in
height. If we really want to rebrand our Town, why not consider an upscale hotel and
spa. We love Trophy Club and it is a great place to call home and we would like to
keep it that way. Having more low income multi-family dwellings or another low
income hotel will not help our Town image. However, I say this in the absence of a
formal plan which has not yet been offered to the community. It is very disturbing to
me that the professional representation of Trophy Club would even consider moving
ahead on approvals without firm documented design concepts. While the Shops at
Legacy are very nice, they are not at the entrance to a golf course community and
they do not back up to our neighborhoods. I would encourage you all to stay firm and
say no to the multi-family dwellings.
Danny Mayer, 2201 Prestwick: By now you have probably figured out that I am
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retired and I write a lot of letters because you get a lot of them. I moved out here
about a year and a half ago from Southlake and absolutely love the community. I’m
an old northeast Tarrant County boy, I grew up out here, like country music. First of
all I’d like to say to these two gentlemen [indicating Mr. Dahlstrom and Mr. Twichell],
we do not need to vilify them, they are just the messengers. We do understand that
folks, we do understand that you are just the messengers. We have a wonderful
community. I was very distressed, as you were, when I saw that last document
posted. I was coming tonight and my request was going to be to reject the entire
thing and send it back because obviously they are not listening to us. Failing that, I
think the next best option is long as it doesn’t have residential in it, I’m all for it. I
have been all for it from the day it came about. We need commercial development.
We need retail space there. We need restaurants. We need hotels. Whatever. But
it is so convoluted and I certainly agree with you Commissioner Sheridan it is so
convoluted I don’t know how you can take the document that is there and just take
out the multi-family and make it work. There are just too many questions that I don’t
think you are going to be able to vote on it tonight. Just a couple of other things.
Trophy Club has 91.4% owner/residents. We have 6.3% multi-family. When you add
those two together, there are not many homes out here that are rented. I live in
Turnberry. The second phase of Turnberry is just opening. There is not a home
being built in there right now that is less than $500,000 and they go up to $800,000.
That is not an apartment style community. We don’t need multi-family here. The
developer says it won’t work without apartments but you guys are not stupid,
obviously. You can drive around. There are lots of developments in all of these
suburban towns around here that don’t have a parking stacked on top of them. I
certainly would like to see the 26 acres become something that is good to us. In my
letter that you got yesterday or today I made four points. We have yet to see a site
plan. I remember in the first meeting Mr. Stephens said that we would never approve
anything without seeing a site plan. We haven’t seen one and I spoke to the Mayor
about that last week when we were at a Christmas party; I buttonholed her and she
said that she has asked for a site plan and Mr. Beck says he won’t give us a site plan
until he knows what is being developed. So, my suggestion is to go with
Commissioner Forest. I’d just like to see it done away with and start over again and
maybe they’ll listen this time.
Gary Mellama, 11 Hayes Court: I’ve been here 33 years. I was part of the first
development of this city. We all met over at Dale White’s house and we put the
beginning of this city together. This city, in my mind, was designed, implemented, the
thought pattern was we would be a bedroom community, we would be a recreational
community based on golf, based on tennis, based on a good residential family. I
agree whole-heartedly with Mr. Forest. I agree with Mr. Stephens. I agree with
Susan. I agree with most of the people who have talked here. This thing has gone to
the part where, I don’t like coming to these things, but you’ve finally got me up
because I’m a little upset. So please Mr. Forest you can jam it through, do it. Mr.
Stephens, I love country music too, but I don’t want multi-family. I don’t want the
problems that entails. Please take that into consideration.
Daniel Donegan, 2211 Prestwick: Similar to Danny Mayer, I’ve lived in Turnberry for
a year and a half. My wife and I moved here because my wife was transferred here
and we have two 11-year old twins. One of the reasons for coming to this community
was for their future. It’s a great community. My kids go to Medlin Middle School. We
started a community service project. When I was in the air force I lived in multi-family
communities off base. I was active in the community but when I would ask people for
help I would never get it. When I go to my neighbor and ask their kids for help, I get
it. My kids at Medlin, we’ve already provided the city with 200 hours of free
community service and that’s what kind of community I want to live in for my kids’
future. I do not want multi-family development. I’m definitely for thoughtful
commercial development. I don’t just want something dropped there and not thought
out. I do want you guys to pass on to the Mayor and the people making the final
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decision that the residents do not know enough about this. I found out about it within
the last two weeks. As a resident, they need to send out letters to everybody and say
this is what is on the block and this is what is going to affect you. The rest of the city
needs to know about this. I definitely think I’m going to be more involved. I can
guarantee you 20 of my friends will be at the next meeting, if not more. Again, we
need to let everybody know about this and you guys need to let the information
spread to the community that it is going to affect.
Robert Hoch, 245 Oak Hill: I’ve lived in Trophy Club since 1989 and I’ve been on
Oak Hill since 1992. This application for a change in zoning is a farce. The P&Z
Commission to recommend to the Town Council, Mr. Forest stole my thunder, that
the entire application be rejected and the Council should honor that recommendation
and consign the entire 59 page document to the recycling bin which is tomorrow.
This property has been zoned for professional offices for years and that zoning
classification is what home buyers expected when they bought homes here.
Agreeing to this proposed zoning change would create an indelible blot at the main
entrance of our community and would provide nothing of value to those of us who live
here. The proposal, with its minimal setbacks, multi-family housing and over tall
buildings seeks to enrich the developer at the expense of the environment that has
attracted people to this town for many years. If granted, it will adversely affect the
appearance of our town; diminish property values for everyone and not just for those
who live in adjoining properties. I see no earthly advantage to the approval of this
zoning change and I defy anyone to argue convincingly that there is any benefit to
our community in granting its approval. I ask that the Council reject it and maintain
the zoning as it is. Should the Council decide in favor of this request, over Mr.
Forest’s upcoming motion I presume, I offer my full support to those who will begin
the effort to recall the Council members who voted for it.
Christina Cari Pearlman, 6 Hamper Ct.: I love Trophy Club. Earlier a gentleman
spoke about an absentee landowner and showed us the results using photos of the
Quorum. A picture tells a thousand words. This is rental property and rental property
is income producing property and investors are always looking for the bottom line –
profits. On the other hand, homeowner property is not a depreciable item. Income
producing property is. Rental property investors require profit. Yet, it also requires
additional investments. Those investments require additional funds for repairs, for
maintenance, for obsolescence of design, for unplanned emergencies and repairs
and etc. On the other hand, homeowners have a love and pride for their homes and
the quality of life is utmost important. Do not be offended that homeowners do not
want multi-family apartments, work live arrangements, or whatever you want to call it,
because rental property investors have different objectives than homeowners.
Ms. Huggins: There are 20 residents within 200-ft. of this property, all of whom were
notified of this public hearing. The next speaker, Linda Gray, is one of the residents
who lives within 200-ft. of the 26-acre property.
Linda Gray, 11 Jennifer Ct.: I live within 200-ft. of this property. I want to thank P&Z
for your considerations to the residents. I think you guys and all of us are on the
same page. I am in favor of the retail commercial development. When we bought
here in 2003, it was obvious then, as it is now, that that land will be developed for
commercial reasons. I love the idea of the Performing Arts Center, the upscale
restaurants, the retail, even an upscale hotel. However, I am totally against any
multi-family housing and any building over four stories tall. Many people in here have
spoke about the multi-family housing so I don’t need to go on about that, but I haven’t
heard much about the heights of these buildings. I’ve driven around and everywhere
I go I am counting one, two, three, one, two, three, one, two, three, four, how tall are
the buildings around here. Most of them are between two and four stories tall. You
don’t get ten story buildings until you hit Dallas and Ft. Worth. To put a 10-story
building on this property would be… I don’t know, some sort of beacon or something.
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I don’t know what it would be, but I just would not fit. It would not be congruent with
anything else that is going on around here.
Chairman Hill closed the public hearing.
Referred to the Town Council due back on 1/9/2012
REGULAR SESSION
2011-632-T3.Discuss a zoning change request for a 26.354 acre tract of land located at the
northeast corner of State Highway 114 and Trophy Club Drive, from the current
zoning of "PO" Professional Office and "CR" Commercial Recreation to a Planned
Development "PD-30" mixed use of multi-family, retail, professional and recreational
type uses. Applicant: Jackson Walker, L.L.P. on behalf of JSB Properties, L.P.
Chairman Hill asked if the applicant wished to make any statement. Mr. Dahlstrom
did not wish to make a statement and Vice Chairman Stephen asked to make a
motion, citing Robert’s Rules of Order when other Commissioners asked for
discussion, i.e., Mr. Stephens stated that Robert’s Rules of Order – you make a
motion and you can only discuss what is considered before the body via a motion.
Therefore, Chairman Hill, I move that we strike all multi-family residences under any
other names mentioned in PD-30, dated 12-8, urban residential, we strike all of that
and we also strike Section 3 which deals with procedures.
Commissioner Sheridan seconded the motion and then asked to amend the motion to
include all references to staff approval – not just Section 3 – because there is
reference to staff approval all through the document. Vice Chair Stephens agreed to
the amendment.
Commissioner Forest stated that there are too many other things needed to amend. I
can’t list all the items that would be needed to amend a motion so I am voting against
it.
Commissioner Sheridan asked if it is feasible to continue with that amendment. He
stated that he would like to have a dialogue and go over the rest of the document to
discuss it as a commercial property, but if there is no compromise on the amendment
then there is no reason to keep going. But, I would like to keep going.
Mr. Dahlstrom: We really believe that a residential component is integral in this kind
of development. I understand what the community is saying and I believe that what
we are proposing is not a garden variety apartment and if anybody would have visited
any of the developments that we’ve shown you could see that the quality of
residential is there. Keeping the dialogue open is always favorable. The procedures
section is advantageous; your consultant said that’s advantageous also for the types
of developments we’ve worked on so I believe it would be desirable to remain in, but
obviously we will deal with the Planning and Zoning Commission’s recommendation
as far as both of those issues go.
Commissioner Sheridan: If there is no agreement to that then I would not vote for my
own second.
Commissioner Reed: I’m just waiting for Mr. (?)[can’t hear] recommendation.
Commissioner Davidson: As part of this amendment to what we are talking about,
we still have several pieces that were not included in this document and it would take
the better part of an hour probably to go through each and every piece that we’ve
already gone through before so in my view we have an incomplete document based
on our previous discussions. We’ve brought up several issues by the Town’s folks so
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now I’m between a rock and a hard spot here.
Commissioner Sheridan: I have six pages of discussion items to correct that.
Vice Chairman Stephens: My motion does not preclude other motions and other
items of discussion. My motion is simply to get to the heart of the matter and those
are the two sticking points and there are no doubt some other issues that we would
want to look at tonight, but these are the major points and if we can get past this then
we can deal with the other. This is not the last motion, no doubt, tonight.
Commissioner Reed: I agree with James’ idea of those things, but the point is those
are two major things, but there are dozens and dozens of minor things that we
covered during those five hours of discussion we had in P&Z. So if we follow James’
idea we haven’t resolved the problem. We still have those dozens and dozens of
other items that have to be cleared up. Beck Properties was notified of what we did
in P&Z, as we’ve mentioned two or three times already. Beck completely ignored
them. I don’t think James’ proposal goes far enough. There is too much to do.
We’ve got to get back to Mr. Forest.
Commissioner Davidson: It is clear that it is incumbent upon the P&Z Commission to
put forth to the Council a complete document. This is anything but. I think trying to
amend what we have is problematic at best. If the changes that we had suggested in
this document, and it was reviewable at that point, and we were to come to a
consensus as I believe we did on a couple of sticking points, so thank you for that,
then I think we could in fact move forward with it. As the document sits, if this is what
we hand over, we have no guarantee that it is going to represent what the P&Z
recommended in the previous meetings. If it was going to, it would have been in
there right now. I have a distinct problem with that piece.
Commissioner Richert: I agree. I have a serious problem with not going over those
items that were submitted by P&Z as recommended changes. There is a lot of detail
involved in that. We have a lot of concerns about some very small items because
they do affect what will be the city’s role in supporting this property 10, 15, 20 years
from now. I see a number of instances on the negative side where things that are
stated in this document seriously impact the ability of the city to, frankly, take care of
the property and support the Town’s mission statements.
Chairman Hill: We have an amended motion before us.
Commissioner Sheridan: That was the primary point, but all I was trying to do was
get to a point of having a dialogue to go over the rest of the document. Without going
over the rest of the document to discuss height, to discuss FAR (which is density), to
discuss open space – that’s where I was trying to get to. I was just trying to move it
along so we could continue the conversation. I think the property needs to be
developed. I think it needs to be developed commercial. I think that would benefit
the Town. I would like to see it developed in a high quality and with a boutique hotel.
The question is the terminology. How do you put high quality into language that is
legally enforceable and how do you put boutique into a hotel that is legally
enforceable. If I listen to the architectural styling that they’ve asked for I would
basically agree I just have a problem, and would like to talk to them, about how to put
it into good language that would create a final document. If we are just going to say,
hey you didn’t go a good job and go back and start over again, where at sometimes I
felt that was the way to go, at the same time we have the gentlemen here and I would
like to continue talking.
Commissioner Forest: I’m not bringing this up to postpone this thing and drag it out
or anything else, but there are so many issues on there that are brought up… number
one height. Hotel – how high is that going to be. Parking garage. Signage.
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Drainage. There are so many things that we are not able to… why can’t the
developer… he knows what we want or at least he should know what we want and
what we don’t want. Come on. Bring us something we can take a look at and go
from there. For us to sit here and tell the guy what to do I don’t think that’s our
position at this point. If he wants to do it then he can bring it and present it to us. If
we like it, fine. If we don’t then we can turn it down, but I’m not sure it’s our place to
sit here and tell him whether he should have a one story building or a two story
building.
Commissioner Sheridan: Along those lines, when we’ve had previous developers in
here and I’m thinking very specifically of D.R. Horton, they had the option and the
ability, and we had the ability, to sit there… there were tables, we were here, we went
back and forth over the whole thing, we went through densities, we went through
quality, we went through issues, and it was a conversation. It wasn’t here’s my
comments go back and redo it. It was an open dialogue and that’s what’s not here
right now. We had a meeting on the 3rd and made a lot of recommendations. We
raised a lot of issues that we were concerned with and unfortunately they weren’t
able to attend for some reason. I would like to offer them the opportunity that we had
with D.R. Horton to at least one-on-one go back and forth with us. They don’t have to.
They can go back and just either take this to revise it to our previous meetings, which
all of my comments will include the November 3 meeting… ok, I don’t mean to
belabor the point.
Chairman Hill: From my viewpoint, what has happened here is the document was
brought to P&Z, which was considered at the meeting on November 3 and then a
second meeting on November 17, I believe, and suggestions were made about
modifications, reduction in multi-family housing and all this, yet when we get a
document back here in early December it has reverted essentially to what was
presented the first time with very little consideration of those several hours of
meetings in November. Either it wasn’t expected to be accepted by the Commission
and the Council, or we were supposed to belly up to the developer’s desires to
putting whatever he wanted out there. There’s where I see where we are now. If you
are willing to go back and review the points that were made previously and make
modifications, then we would have something to consider. As it is I don’t think we
have anything here to consider.
Commissioner Davidson: I think we’ve all made the point pretty clear but I think we’re
to the junction with this process that it’s very broken right at the moment and I don’t
think that’s fair to everybody that’s concerned. I agree with Commissioner Sheridan
that having that dialogue I think is important and doing that as a small group in
executive session or however it makes sense that we did it with Horton going forward
to get that input, understanding what the sticking spots are, what it’s going to take to
have the development be successful, but incorporating what we understand clearly
from the residents and what goes into our own zoning ordinances. I think we could
come up with a document that represents all parties concerned here and we don’t
need to do it in an adversarial way. Everyone stands to benefit in some way shape
or form here but also we stand to be burdened with something that is less than
desirable if done improperly. To force this through in its current form is not
acceptable. It doesn’t fit the Town. It’s not going to fly with the residents and I think
that’s a danger. I don’t think we want to go there, but we do want to develop it and I
hope that part is very clear. We want to do that with you, not against you. So there’s
lots of latitude in here and I think that when you get the agreement from the Town
and from the rest of the residents and even from the Council members on what items
are in play and what aren’t in play then that helps narrow down the parameters as to
where you can exercise your creative license and really come up with something that
represents what I think the majority of people are looking for. You are very talented
folks; you have proven that over the years. We need to leverage that talent and I
don’t want you to think that we are pushing you away because that is not the intent. I
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view this as it’s a correction or small adjustment in direction. You’ve compromised on
multiple items here and done so maybe reluctantly at times, but you have done it and
I commend you for that. That is a very important step and that should go a long ways
towards the residents as well to show that there is some good faith here. I trust in
you guys ability to do this. I think we have an environment here that is different than
what you had before and I think working together to make it the proper PD
representation so you can hold that document up with pride and say yes this is the
model going forward that is where we need to be. That I will support whole-heartedly.
Commissioner Reed: I understand Dennis’ idea. It’s great to have dialogue with
people but we, in essence, presented our side of the dialogue with the results of our
two meetings. Their dialogue coming back to us completely ignored it. So where do
we go from there. They know what we want and we get nothing back from them that
even relates to it so I think it is a dead horse.
Vice Chairman Stephens: I want to go back and give a rational for my motion. We
need to know, as a Commission, if applicant is willing to continue the dialogue in light
of this motion before this group tonight. I hear Mr. Dahlstrom saying we will continue
to talk. I like that because we want to continue the conversation, but we are not
interested in continuing the conversation as long as there are multi-family residential
words in this document. Zero. There is no need in continuing the conversation if
they will not accept the city maintaining its standard operating procedures which
serve us well and will serve you well. We will help you. We are for you. So I made
that comment beginning the meeting tonight to give everybody a heads up and
hopefully by doing that we would avoid any apoplectic comments from anybody
around here or out there. I’m testing the waters. At least it begins the dialogue
where we want to begin it and that is at the heart of the matter – the commercial
development of the property sans residential and your procedures. If you are willing
to continue that then I think I’ll call for the question. That is a non-debatable motion
and we have to vote at this time. I move the previous question.
Chairman Hill called for the vote. The motion failed 2-5 (Chairman Hill and Vice
Chairman Stephens voted for, all else opposed.) Commissioner Sheridan asked to
explain that he voted no because he wished to be able to go over the rest of the
document with the applicant and without that he can’t vote for the motion.
Chairman Hill recognized the applicant.
Mr. Dahlstrom: First of all I would like to say that this is not an adversarial procedure.
In discussing this with the architect, I just don’t know if we can live without the
residential component and I believe the procedural issues are important to us if that
helps you in making your decision tonight.
Vice Chairman Stephens: I make a motion that we recommend to the Town Council
denial of Planned Development No. 30 (PD-30). Commissioner Sheridan seconded
the motion and then withdrew his second so that Commissioner Forest could make
the second.
Chairman Hill called on Commissioner Reed who stated: This pretty well fits my
feelings.
Chairman Hill called for the vote and the denial passed unanimously.
A motion was made by Vice Chair Stephens, seconded by Commissioner
Forest, that this Agenda Item be Denied. The motion passed by the following
vote.
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Aye:Vice Chair Stephens, Commissioner Davidson, Commissioner Sheridan,
Commissioner Forest, Chairman Hill, Commissioner Reed, and
Commissioner Richert
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Adjourn
Mr. Dahlstrom thanked the Commission for its time.
Meeting Adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
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Gene Hill, Chairman
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Carolyn Huggins, Community Development Director
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7:00 PM Svore Municipal Building BoardroomThursday, January 5, 2012
Call To Order and announce a quorum.
Chairman Hill called the meeting to order at 7 p.m. with a quorum (6 members)
present.
COMMISSION MEMBERS:
Vice Chair James Stephens, Commissioner Mike Davidson,
Commissioner Dennis Sheridan, Commissioner Dale Forest, Chairman
Gene Hill, and Commissioner Clayton Reed
Present:6 -
Commissioner Gary RichertAbsent:1 -
STAFF PRESENT:
Carolyn Huggins, Community Development Director
COUNCIL PRESENT:
Councilman Bill Rose
PUBLIC HEARING
2011-653-T1.Public Hearing regarding an Amendment to Ordinance No. 1999-17 P&Z,
Planned Development No. 21 (PD-21), Plaza Shopping Center, to allow a
fuel station as a permitted use. Applicant: Regency Centers, L.P. on
behalf of Tom Thumb Grocery Store. (PD AMD-11-038)
Chairman Hill opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to come forward.
Dorothy Parks, Regency Centers, L.P., stated that the proposal is to allow a fuel
center as a permitted use. The location of the fuel center will be north of the Bank of
America Center in the existing Tom Thumb parking lot. The location was determined
based on consideration of the other retail tenants as well as the proximity to Tom
Thumb’s front door. The proposal is to allow for four (4) fuel kiosks which would be a
total of eight (8) pump stations. Ms. Parks showed stone/EFIS elevations for the
kiosks and stated that they believe they are consistent with the façade of the existing
center. A kiosk would be manned during store hours which are currently 6 a.m. to 1
a.m.
There were no requests to speak for this item.
Ms. Huggins informed the Chairman and Commissioners that a letter of support was
received from a resident, Joseph Hill, 3 Shasta Drive, a copy of which was given to
each Commissioner at the meeting this evening.
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Chairman Hill closed the public hearing and moved to Item 6 of the agenda to have
the decision of the public hearing item.
Referred to the Town Council due back on 1/23/2012
REGULAR SESSION
2011-633-T2.Discussion and recommendation regarding granting a Special Privilege
Request to the Trophy Club Women's Club to hold two Community
Garage Sale Events, the first on April 21, 2012 and the second event to
occur on October 20, 2012. Applicant: Sally Freeman on behalf of
Trophy Club Women's Club.
Ms. Freeman thanked the Commissioners for their time and stated that she is here to
seek authorization for the garage sale dates of Saturday, April 21, 2012 and October
20, 2012. She stated that the dates have been coordinated with Town Staff – April
Reiling, Carolyn Huggins, Stephen Seidel and Mike Slye via emails with Joyce Frey
the President of Trophy Club Women’s Club. She asked for waiver of the $25 fee so
that there will be an extra $25 to submit to charitable causes.
Commissioner Forest made a motion recommending approval to the Town
Council to grant a Special Privilege Request to the Trophy Club Women’s Club
to hold two Community Garage Sale Events, April 21 and October 20, 2012 and
to waive the fee. Commissioner Davidson seconded the motion. The vote was
unanimous 6-0.
Aye:Vice Chair Stephens, Commissioner Davidson, Commissioner Sheridan,
Commissioner Forest, Chairman Hill, and Commissioner Reed
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2011-634-T3.Discussion and Recommendation regarding a request for approval of a
Final Plat for Neighborhood 6, Phase 2F (7.722 acres) located in The
Highlands at Trophy Club, R. Allen Survey, Abstract No. 5 and Abstract
No. 17. Applicant: Kyle Salzman, Jacobs Engineering Group Inc. on
behalf of High Trophy Development LLC. (FP-11-044)
Kyle Salzman, Jacobs Engineering, introduced himself and stated that he is available
to answer any questions from the Commissioners.
Commissioner Davidson asked if Sheet 12 of the construction plans was included in
the packet. Ms. Huggins stated that it was not. The construction plans are reviewed
and approved by the Town Engineer, Tom Rutledge, who is in attendance this
evening if the Commissioners have any questions. Mr. Rutledge confirmed that he
would review the final plans and ensure that the discrepancy on Sheet 12 is
corrected.
Commissioner Sheridan asked why Note 4 is different on this plat from the other two
plats under consideration. Ms. Huggins stated that Staff will be asking that the note
be added to the other two plats.
Vice Chairman Stephens recommended approval to the Town Council for the
final plat of Neighborhood 6, Phase 2F. Commissioner Reed seconded the
motion. The vote was unanimous 6-0.
Aye:Vice Chair Stephens, Commissioner Davidson, Commissioner Sheridan,
Commissioner Forest, Chairman Hill, and Commissioner Reed
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2011-637-T4.Discussion and Recommendation regarding a request for approval of a
Final Plat for Waters Edge at Hogan's Glen, Phase 2B-2 (3.913 acres)
located in Hogan's Glen, J. Michael Survey, Abstract No. 821 & the M.
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Medlin Survey, Abstract No. 832. Applicant: Jaison Stephen, Jacobs
Engineering Group Inc. on behalf of BDMR Development, LLC
(FP-11-042)
Jaison Stephen, Jacobs Engineering, came forward and asked for approval.
Sheridan: Can you confirm that the Developer is paying for the continuation of the
Indian Creek pavement. Ms. Huggins: That’s correct.
Ms. Huggins: On page 35 of the packet there are a number of stipulations that staff
is requesting for this plat:
(1) Revise the side building line from 10-ft. to 15-ft. for Lot 2, Block M and Lot 42,
Block L.
(2) Update year to 2012 in Owner’s Dedication, Notary, and Approval signature
blocks.
(3) Add a note that the Homeowners Association is responsible for maintenance of
all common areas.
(4) Remove extra space between “Improvements” and “Associated” in Note 3.
Mr. Sheridan: Note 3 will include an item that if the HOA doesn’t maintain all
common areas…. What happens? Mr. Lenart: We’ll refer to whatever has been
done on previous plats. Mr. Sheridan: I’m looking for the verbiage on the previous
plats. Ms. Huggins: We’ll add it.
Chairman Hill: Correct a misspelled word – “separate” needs to be corrected just
above Block N, Lots 1 and 2.
Commissioner Reed recommended approval to the Town Council for the final
plat of Waters Edge at Hogan’s Glen, Phase 2B-2. Commissioner Forest
seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous 6-0.
Aye:Vice Chair Stephens, Commissioner Davidson, Commissioner Sheridan,
Commissioner Forest, Chairman Hill, and Commissioner Reed
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2011-652-T5.Discussion and Recommendation regarding a request for approval of a
Final Plat for Canterbury Hills, Phase 1A (11.165 acres) located out of the
M. Medlin Survey, Abstract No. 832 in the Town of Trophy Club, Denton
County, Texas. Applicant: Jaison Stephen, Jacobs Engineering Group
Inc. on behalf of BDMR Development, LLC (FP-11-043)
Ms. Huggins: This is straight zoning, R-12, but the neighborhood will be gated and
part of the Hogan’s Glen HOA. However, these are not estate lots or villa lots like the
rest of Hogan’s Glen. They will be built to R-12 district standards.
As part of the Hogan’s Glen HOA, the streets will be private and maintained by the
HOA, therefore, two notes will be added to the plat. A “private street” notation will be
added and also a note that the streets will be maintained by the Homeowners
Association.
Vice Chairman Stephens recommended approval to the Town Council for the
final plat of Canterbury Hills, Phase 1A with the stipulation that two notes
regarding the private streets be added to the plat. Commissioner Davidson
seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous 6-0.
Aye:Vice Chair Stephens, Commissioner Davidson, Commissioner Sheridan,
Commissioner Forest, Chairman Hill, and Commissioner Reed
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2011-654-T6.Discussion and Recommendation regarding an Amendment to Ordinance
No. 1999-17 P&Z, Planned Development No. 21 (PD-21), Plaza Shopping
Center, to allow a fuel station as a permitted use. Applicant: Regency
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Centers, L.P. on behalf of Tom Thumb Grocery Store. (PD AMD-11-038)
Vice Chairman Stephens: What is the anticipated number of customers on a
day-to-day basis? What is the anticipated revenue? Ms. Parks responded that Tom
Thumb finds this a convenience that is an expected use in their stores.
Mr. Stephens: My question relates to traffic. We do have a lot of traffic in that area
and now we’ll have more traffic. Perhaps it will just be the grocery store customers
who use the fuel station… Ms. Parks: They have a reward program and customers
can save up to $1.00 per gallon of gas based off of the card you swipe so generally a
majority of their customers are the grocery customers using the fuel station.
Chairman Hill asked if Ms. Parks works for Tom Thumb. Ms. Parks responded that
she works for the property owner, Regency, not Tom Thumb.
Ms. Huggins stated that a request for an amendment to a planned development must
come from the property owner, not the tenant. Although this request is for Tom
Thumb grocery store, it must have the approval and support of the property owner
and the property owner must make the request. Regency is the property owner; Tom
Thumb is the tenant. Also, the PD document allows staff to request, if determined
necessary, a traffic impact analysis submittal with the site plan for this use.
Mr. Sheridan: The current hours of operation are 6 a.m. to 1 a.m. but the grocery
store is allowed to be open 24-hours, correct? Ms. Huggins: Correct.
Mr. Sheridan: I’m wondering if we want to limit the number of hours. I’m for the gas
station. I don’t know if I’m for it for 24 hour operation. I’m leaning toward 6 a.m. to 11
p.m. because those are the hours of operation of most of the tenants in that shopping
center. Does the Police Department have any preference? Ms. Huggins: No.
Mr. Sheridan: My preference would be 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. and manned. Why is the
location so far away from the store?
Ms. Parks: They didn’t want to take away convenience from their grocery store
parking.
Ms. Huggins: Staff also asked for that location for circulation purposes. In looking at
the current use of the shopping center, that is an area that is used the least.
Mr. Sheridan: That takes away a location for a future pad site. Does this interfere
with the coverage? Ms. Huggins: It does not.
Mr. Sheridan: Is there any other sales besides fuel at the station? Ms. Parks: No.
Vice Chair Stephens: Chips? Butterfingers?
Ms. Huggins: There is a restriction in the PD for no outdoor sales. They can’t place
a rolling cart outside the kiosk for food or beverage sales. The merchandise would
have to be inside the kiosk – cigarettes, perhaps? Ms. Parks: They are not set up to
handle merchandise that way. They don’t have the equipment in the kiosk to do that.
Mr. Sheridan: Do we get any sales tax revenue for gas? Ms. Huggins: Not sure. I’ll
have to check on that.
Mr. Forest: I’m concerned for traffic flow and the ingress/egress to the station. It
seems congested.
Ms. Parks: The existing curb cut, the existing ingress/egress will make it fairly easy
to access the station.
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Vice Chair Stephens: To get out to go to Highway 114 means circling the bank or
coming down to the main driveway in front of Tom Thumb. The median cuts are
there.
Ms. Huggins: Staff discussed the ingress/egress with Regency, suggesting changes
to the shopping center main in/out, but they did not want to change the entrances.
Eventually staff agreed to leave the entrances/exits as they are so that the closest
entrance and exit is a right in, right out so if the customer wanted to go left out of the
shopping center to go south to Highway 114, they would have to go between
Walgreens and the Bank of America or down to the Tom Thumb.
Mr. Forest: Right now they cut through the parking lot of the bank. Ms. Huggins:
Correct, that’s how it is right now. Mr. Forest: So its causing problems even now.
Chairman Hill: My primary concern is getting a fuel tanker in there to get the gas
tanks full. That’s a semi-trailer and I don’t see a traffic flow that allows a tanker truck
that carries 8,000 gallons of fuel a way to get in there. Ms. Parks: There is a
program that we use, called Auto Turn, and we’ve done the analysis on this and I’d
be happy to give that to you to show how the trucks will get in and out. Chairman
Hill: I’d like to see that with the site plan because the hours of delivery are 6 a.m. to 6
p.m., daytime hours, to try to get the truck in there with the grocery store and the
bank and all other retail customers there at the same time. That’s a concern. Ms.
Parks: That’s a concern of ours too. We’d like to be able to deliver earlier, but
because of the restricts, we can’t. We’ve taken all of that into consideration regarding
the location.
Mr. Reed: My main concern is traffic safety. I think the location makes sense in
order to move the station away from the store so that it will be away from the bulk of
the traffic. Most of the parking is up toward Tom Thumb. I can see that putting it any
closer to the grocery store would complicate the situation. I think someone should be
working there anytime that it is open and I suggest setting the hours of the station the
same as the store.
Mr. Sheridan: What if the store goes 24 hours. Do you have a problem with that?
Most of the Commissioners responded that they did not have a problem with 24 hour
grocery and fuel store hours.
Mr. Reed: I’m also concerned, like Chairman Hill, of how the tanker truck will get in
and out of the location.
Mr. Davidson: Carolyn, does that bump our restriction from five buildings to six
buildings? Ms. Huggins: It does change the density, yes.
Mr. Davison: How does that change the parking requirement in this PD? Ms.
Huggins: I don’t know specifically how many parking spaces will be removed until the
site plan is completely reviewed. Preliminary review suggests that about 40 spaces
will be removed by this request. We can specify the number of parking spaces for
the PD on the site plan and in the PD amendment we can state that the required
number of spaces will be as shown on the site plan.
Chairman Hill: As it is now, the number of spaces exceeds the required amount of
parking. Ms. Huggins: Yes sir.
Mr. Davidson: As Mr. Sheridan stated, there are potentially two other pad sites
available in this shopping center, but with the parking now possibly below the
minimum it won’t allow moving forward with any of that. So the decision here is
putting in the gas kiosk and foregoing further development. I don’t have an issue with
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that, I just want to make sure we are clear what we set forth in the PD. In addition to
that, if they decide to go 7/24, I don’t have a problem with that. If you want to make it
6 a.m. to 1 a.m. right now that’s fine as well.
Vice Chairman Stephens: Should we change the hours of delivery? Mr. Davidson: I
think it then becomes a noise issue to the surrounding community. Obviously a truck
does not necessarily tread lightly. Vice Chairman Stephens: I don’t see noise as big
of a problem as the big delivery truck becoming a traffic issue problem.
Mr. Davidson: Understand, but at the same time you see that same activity take
place at countless other gas stations where they bring trucks in whenever the whim
calls for it and it could be in the middle of the day and it’s not necessarily convenient
for everybody else but they have no qualms about blocking traffic and mixing it up in
the middle of the day so I don’t know that it really will cure that particular issue. I
don’t think they will take advantage of it as frequently as you think.
Ms. Parks: The good news in this particular situation, unlike other gas stations
around the area, Tom Thumb is very aware that if they bring big trucks in and fill their
tanks at an inconvenient time, they are inconveniencing their own customers so that’s
not an issue they want to get into. They want to make it as easy as possible for their
customers to get in the door to buy groceries and then stop to get gas, or vice versa.
Vice Chairman Stephens: I was thinking about getting on the plus side of safety. It’s
rare that you have any instances, but I think if we can err on the side of safety, we
need to think about that. I don’t have any problems with the hours of operation. I
have a rewards card… come on down.
Mr. Sheridan: Any special lighting? Ms. Parks: The lighting will follow the rules and
regulations of Trophy Club. It’s a balance because we want everyone to feel safe
and we want the station to be well lit, but we also don’t want it to be a nuisance. Mr.
Sheridan: Our current ordinances protect the residents living across the street from
any ambient light? Ms. Huggins: That’s correct and that’s the balance Tom Thumb
will be required to work to achieve.
Commissioner Sheridan made a motion to recommend approval to the Town
Council to amend PD-21 subject to limiting the sales to fuel only, manned only,
and specifying six buildings maximum density. Vice Chairman Stephens
seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously 6-0.
Aye:Vice Chair Stephens, Commissioner Davidson, Commissioner Sheridan,
Commissioner Forest, Chairman Hill, and Commissioner Reed
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Adjourn
Chairman Hill adjourned the meeting at 7:41p.m.
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Gene Hill, Chairman
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Carolyn Huggins, Community Development Director
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Legislation Details (With Text)
File #: Version:12011-675-T Name:
Status:Type:Agenda Item Regular Session
File created:In control:1/11/2012 Planning & Zoning Commission
On agenda:Final action:1/19/2012
Title:Discussion and recommendation regarding a request for approval of a Temporary Use for Off Street
Parking for Model Homes in Planned Development No. 22, Waters Edge at Hogan’s Glen for a Period
of Time of Not Greater Than One Year. Applicant: Ashton Woods Homes
Attachments:Staff Report - PZ 011912 - Ashton Woods.pdf
Plot Plan.pdf
Hogan's Glen HOA Support.pdf
Application.pdf
Action ByDate Action ResultVer.
Title
Discussion and recommendation regarding a request for approval of a Temporary Use for Off Street
Parking for Model Homes in Planned Development No. 22, Waters Edge at Hogan’s Glen for a
Period of Time of Not Greater Than One Year. Applicant: Ashton Woods Homes
Planning and Zoning Commission Page 25 of 35 Meeting Date: January 19, 2012
SUBJECT: Discussion and Recommendation regarding a request for
approval of a Temporary Use for Off Street Parking for
Model Homes in Planned Development No. 22, Waters Edge
at Hogan’s Glen for a Period of Time of Not Greater Than
One Year. Applicant: Ashton Woods Homes
Ashton Woods Homes is requesting permission to build a parking lot which will
provide parking for customers and employees for the Ashton Woods model
homes located in Waters Edge at Hogan’s Glen subdivision. The parking lot is to
be located on Lot 11, Block L, which carries the address of 5 Reading Ct.
This type of use is regulated under Chapter 13 – Zoning Ordinance, Article V
Supplementary District Regulations, Section 5.01 Temporary Uses:
A. Permitted Uses: The following uses, which are classified as
temporary uses, may be permitted for a period of time by the
Town Council, after recommendation by the Planning and
Zoning Commission. Said period of time shall be determined at
the time of approval but shall not exceed the time limit for
selected uses as provided herein.
…
14. Off street parking for Model Homes in residential districts,
provided on one lot which complies with all setback
requirements of the district in which it is located for a time
period of not greater than one year. However, such
temporary use may be renewed annually.
…
Annual Extensions of the temporary use permit may be issued
by the Zoning Administrator upon written request by the
applicant.
The builder must eventually remove the parking lot, restoring the lot to a
buildable single family home lot as originally shown on the Waters Edge at
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
STAFF REPORT
January 19, 2012
Off-Street Parking for Ashton Woods
Model Home
5 Reading Ct., Lot 11, Block L
Waters Edge at Hogan’s Glen
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Hogan’s Glen, Phase 2A plat which was approved by Council on September 13,
2010 and filed in Denton County on April 18, 2011.
FINAL PLAT: Waters Edge at Hogan’s Glen, Phase 2A
Setbacks: The setbacks for this lot are:
Front Yard: 25 feet minimum
Rear Yard: 20 feet minimum
Side Yard: 5 feet minimum
The applicant has complied with all required setbacks.
Parking Requirements: Town of Trophy Club parking regulations do not
specify a definitive number of parking spaces required for this use. The
regulations state the following: “The number of spaces required shall serve
residents, customers, patrons, visitors and employees.” In addition, American
Disabilities Act (ADA) standards require twenty percent of total parking spaces
must be handicap-accessible. The Building Official was asked to review the plan
presented by Ashton Woods. He noted that the 9-ft. x 18-ft. parking spaces meet
the Town’s requirements and that the handicap spaces must be revised to meet
the requirements of 17-ft. x 18-ft. with a minimum 8-ft. of hash marks within each
handicap space. With these changes, the Building Official recommends approval
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of the parking lot for the Ashton Woods model homes within the gated community
of Hogan’s Glen.
Parking Facilities Construction: Town regulations require that parking facilities
be constructed of reinforced concrete on prepared subgrade. Minimum thickness
shall be 5” for general parking. The applicant must obtain a building permit and
comply with materials and inspection requirements.
Landscaping: The applicant is required to meet the “General Standards” of the
Town of Trophy Club Landscaping Regulations, which include
…
1. Quality: Plant materials used in conformance with the provisions of this
ordinance shall conform to the standard of the American Standard for
Nursery Stock, or equal thereto. Grass seed, sod and other material shall
be clean and reasonable free of weeds and noxious pests and insects.
2. Trees: Trees referred to in this Section shall comply with all applicable
regulations and requirements of Article VIII of the Subdivision Regulations
of the Town of Trophy Club, as amended. If any of the requirements of
Article VIII regulating trees conflict with the requirements contained herein
regulating trees, the requirements of Article VIII of the Subdivision
Regulations shall control.
3. Shrubs and Hedges: Shrubs shall be a minimum of two feet in height
when measured immediately after planting. Hedges, where installed, shall
be planted and maintained so as to form a continuous, unbroken, solid,
visual screen which will be three (3) feet high within one year after time of
planting.
4. Vines: Vines shall be a minimum of two feet immediately after planting and
may be used in conjunction with fences, screens or walls to meet
screening requirements as specified.
5. Ground Cover: Ground covers used in lieu of grass in whole and in part
shall be of live material and shall be planted in such a manner as to
present a finished appearance and reasonably complete coverage within
one year of planting.
6. Lawn Grass: Grass areas may be sodded, plugged, sprigged or seeded
except that solid sod shall be used in swales, berms or other areas subject
to erosion.
7. Credit for Existing Trees: Any trees preserved on a site meeting the
specifications herein shall be credited toward meeting the tree
requirement of any landscaping provision of this Section. Trees of
exceptional quality due to size, large canopy cover, trunk diameter,
rareness, age or species may, at the discretion of the Planning and Zoning
Commission, be credited as two Chapter 13 – Zoning trees for the herein
minimum requirements.
8. Railroad Ties: The use of railroad ties for use as landscaping material
shall be prohibited.
Planning and Zoning Commission Page 28 of 35 Meeting Date: January 19, 2012
The applicant intends to plant ten (10) elaeagnus, which are gray evergreen
shrubs that tend to grow well in any soil and are fairly drought tolerant.
Eight (8) Indian Hawthorne will be planted which is also an evergreen shrub with
showy white or pink flowers in the spring and blue-black berries in the fall.
Blocks of seasonal color are planned on either side of the driveway entrance to
the parking lot.
Two crape myrtle Deciduous trees and one wax myrtle tree are planned for the
site.
As required by the Landscaping Regulations, each shrub will be a minimum 2-ft.
in height at time of planting and each tree will be a minimum 3-caliper inches at
planting.
Planning and Zoning Recommendation: The Planning and Zoning
Commission can recommend approval or denial of this request to the Town
Council. The Council will hear this request on Monday, February 6, 2012.
(ch)
Attachments: Chapter 13 – Zoning; Article V – Supplementary District
Regulations; Section 5.01 Temporary Uses
Application
Parking Lot Plot Plan
Planning and Zoning Commission Page 29 of 35 Meeting Date: January 19, 2012
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Legislation Details (With Text)
File #: Version:12011-677-T Name:
Status:Type:Agenda Item Regular Session
File created:In control:1/15/2012 Planning & Zoning Commission
On agenda:Final action:1/19/2012
Title:Discussion and Recommendation regarding a request for approval of a Final Plat of Lot 1R, Block A,
Trophy Club Plaza being a Replat of Lot 1, Block A, located on Trophy Lake Drive between State
Highway 114 and Trophy Club Drive. Property Owner: Regency Centers, L.P.
Attachments:Staff Report - PZ - Replat.pdf
Action ByDate Action ResultVer.
Title
Discussion and Recommendation regarding a request for approval of a Final Plat of Lot 1R, Block A,
Trophy Club Plaza being a Replat of Lot 1, Block A, located on Trophy Lake Drive between State
Highway 114 and Trophy Club Drive. Property Owner: Regency Centers, L.P.
Planning and Zoning Commission Page 34 of 35 Meeting Date: January 19, 2012
Planning and Zoning Commission February 21, 2008 Page 1 of 1
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
January 19, 2012
Discussion and Recommendation regarding a request for approval of a Final Plat
of Lot 1R, Block A, Trophy Club Plaza being a Replat of Lot 1, Block A, located on
Trophy Lake Drive between State Highway 114 and Trophy Club Drive. Property
Owner: Regency Centers, L.P.
CASE SUMMARY: The applicant, Regency Centers, L.P., is requesting approval of a
Replat of Lot 1, Block A, Trophy Club Plaza. The purpose of the replat is to dedicate
right-of-way for future construction of a roundabout at Trophy Lake and Trophy Club
Drive intersection. A utility easement has also been added beside the right-of-way to
potentially move a water line in association with the roundabout construction.
CURRENT ZONING: The site is currently zoned Planned Development No. 21 (PD-21).
The zoning and PD concept plan for this site were approved in July 1999.
COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN: This site is located within the area identified on
the Comprehensive Land Use Plan for Commercial/Professional uses.
STAFF REVIEW: The Town Staff and Town Engineer have reviewed the plat and
determined that it complies with Town ordinances and regulations as well as the
obligations outlined in PD-21.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval of RP-11-018, a replat of
Lot 1, Block A into Lot 1R, Block A, Trophy Club Plaza.
Planning and Zoning Commission Page 35 of 35 Meeting Date: January 19, 2012