Minutes P&Z 07/17/2008
MINUTES OF A REGULAR SESSION
FOR THE
TOWN OF TROPHY CLUB
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
JULY 17, 2008
The Planning and Zoning Commission of the Town of Trophy Club, Texas met in a Regular
Session on July 17, 2008, at 7:00 p.m. in the Public Services Conference Room, 100 Municipal
Drive, Trophy Club, Texas 76262.
COMMISSIONERS ATTENDANCE:
Chairman Hill Absent
Vice Chairman Stephens Present
Commissioner Reed Present
Commissioner Sheridan Present
Commissioner Forest Present
Commissioner Ashby Present
Commissioner Sanchez resigned effective May 12, 2008. Vacancy will remain until
applications are accepted in August to fill this position and other positions up for
reappointment.
STAFF AND GUESTS PRESENT:
Carolyn Huggins Planning & Zoning Coordinator
Chris King Building Inspector
Todd Price Southwest Downs L.P.
Michelle Brown F&R Adams Luxury Homes, L.L.C.
A.1 CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCE A QUORUM.
Vice Chairman Stephens called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. with a quorum present.
B.1 REVIEW AND APPROVE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 19, 2008 PLANNING AND
ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
Commissioner Ashby asked for a correction of the voting for Item C.2. Commissioner Ashby
was absent at the June 19 meeting and therefore could not have voted as shown in the
minutes. Ms. Huggins will correct the item.
Commission Forest motioned to approve the minutes of the June 19, 2008, Planning & Zoning
Commission meeting as corrected. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ashby.
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Ayes: Stephens, Reed, Sheridan, Forest, Ashby
Nays: None
Action: 5-0, Approved
C.1 PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR REPLAT OF LOTS 1-8,
BLOCK A, AND LOTS 1-27, BLOCK B, CHURCHILL DOWNS SUBDIVISION.
APPLICANTS: TODD PRICE, SOUTHWEST DOWNS, AND MICHELLE BROWN,
F&R ADAMS LUXURY HOMES, OWNERS. (RP-08-014)
Vice Chairman Stephens announced the case, opened the public hearing, and asked the
applicants to bring the Commission up-to-date on the changes to the replat.
Todd Price, Owner, stated that the replat shows the new setbacks and the dedication of the
streets as private. He stated that the majority of the replat is the same as the original plat. He
stated that he also has grading information with him [as requested by the Planning & Zoning
Commissioners at the last meeting when a zoning change for this property was approved],
which is part of the construction plans for the subdivision and the construction plans, including
grading, do not change with this replat. Ms. Huggins confirmed that the Town engineer
reviewed the grading plans that are part of the construction plans for this subdivision and those
plans are not changed by this replat.
As there were none in attendance wishing to speak during the Public Hearing portion of this
case, Vice Chairman Stephens closed the public hearing.
C.2 DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR REPLAT OF LOTS 1-8,
BLOCK A, AND LOTS 1-27, BLOCK B, CHURCHILL DOWNS SUBDIVISION.
APPLICANTS: TODD PRICE, SOUTHWEST DOWNS, AND MICHELLE BROWN,
F&R ADAMS LUXURY HOMES, OWNERS. (RP-08-014)
Vice Chairman Stephens asked for discussion by the Commission.
Commissioner Sheridan asked if this is for P&Z approval or for recommendation to the City
Council. Ms. Huggins replied that the Commission is considering this item for recommendation
to the City Council.
Commissioner Sheridan asked if there are any other Town ordinances that would be changed
or altered (such as no parking of vehicles overnight on the streets) when this subdivision
becomes private, beyond what is put in the notes which references the utilities and easements.
Ms. Huggins responded that the part of the plat that is going private (the streets) is no longer
subject to Town regulations except as outlined on the plat. By State Law under the
Transportation Code, using as an example overnight parking as mentioned by Commissioner
Sheridan, 25% of the homeowners of the subdivision would have to petition the Town in order
to make those regulations part of that private subdivision.
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Commissioner Sheridan asked if code enforcement, such as maintaining yards and fences,
would not be affected by this subdivision becoming private. Ms. Huggins responded, “That’s
correct”. Ms. Huggins stated that Town regulations apply to all items in the subdivision other
than the street regulations, once the streets become private.
Commissioner Sheridan recommended that a boxed note be added to the replat stating that
the replat voids all previous plats. Ms. Huggins added that this replat automatically voids the
previous final plat, however, after checking with other staff members, including the Town
Attorney, staff agrees with Mr. Sheridan that a note of explanation should be added to the
replat and that note will be shown on the copies that Council will receive for review on August
4, 2008.
Vice Chairman Stephens asked that the date be updated on the replat.
Commissioner Ashby stated that he does not want to see the setbacks of the rear yards
changed, especially on those homes backing up to Marshall Creek Rd. After discussion with
the applicant, staff and other Commissioners, Mr. Ashby withdrew his comments since the
setbacks were approved with the zoning change request of Churchill Downs which was
recommended for approval by the Planning & Zoning Commission on June 19, 2008 and
approved by the Town Council on July 7, 2008. This replat reflects the setbacks approved with
the Churchill Downs subdivision zoning change from R-15 to PD-29. Mr. Ashby stated that he
would have liked to see the setbacks remain at 20-ft. and would have voted that way had he
been present at the previous Planning & Zoning Commission meeting when the rezoning
request was considered.
As there was no further discussion, Vice Chairman Stephens called for a motion.
Commissioner Sheridan made a motion recommending approval to the Town Council with the
following stipulations: 1) a boxed note added to the replat stating the purpose of the replat and
that this replat voids all previous plats; 2) current date placed on the replat. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Reed.
Ayes: Stephens, Reed, Sheridan, Forest, Ashby
Nays: None
Action: 5-0, Approved
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C.3 PUBLIC HEARING FOR A TEXTUAL CHANGE TO THE TOWN OF TROPHY CLUB
CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 13-ZONING, ARTICLE V-SUPPLEMENTARY
DISTRICT REGULATIONS, SECTION 5.03 ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND USES,
SUBSECTION “D” LOCATION, TO ALLOW DETACHED ACCESSORY
STRUCTURES TO BE BUILT CLOSER THAN TEN (10) FEET TO PRIMARY
DWELLING. (ADM-08-029)
Vice Chairman Stephens opened the Public Hearing and asked Chris King, Building Inspector,
for a staff report.
Mr. King stated that the current ordinance does not allow a detached structure such as an
arbor, pergola, or outdoor kitchen to be closer than 10-ft. to the existing dwelling. Staff runs
into problems with this ordinance because very large homes are being built on lots and
pushing an arbor, pergola, etc., 10-ft. away from the house causes encroachment into
setbacks as well as utility or drainage easements, creating more harm than good in Staff’s
opinion. Staff is asking that the homeowner be allowed to be closer than 10-ft. to stay within
setback boundaries without having to attach to the primary dwelling.
Vice Chairman Stephens asked if anyone else wished to speak.
Jill Setzer, 4 Cricket Ct., stated that she and her husband would like to see this pass because
their house is situated on a cul-de-sac such that if they put a structure outside it would literally
be in the middle of the yard and they would have to tear down a tree which wouldn’t be
aesthetically pleasing to anyone. If this passed, they could place a shed in the location where
they wished and have it aesthetically pleasing to everyone. She stated that they also wish to
have an 8-ft. shed and the ordinance limits sheds to 6-ft., but they were told by Ron [Powell,
Permit Department Technician], “that’s a typographical error; it should say 8-ft.”
Mike Davidson, 201 Ridge View Lane, Eagles Ridge area, would like to see this change occur.
He has a patio that extends off the furthest back-facing part of the house, facing south, with
brick on the house, a concrete patio and it drops off 4-ft. from there, so it is very awkward to do
anything with that space. Mr. Davidson would like to add a cover to block the sun a little bit
without going 10-ft. away from the structure.
Gilbert Rabbe, 2 Ridgewood Dr., is also in favor of this change. He would like to install an
entertainment area in his backyard. He wishes to have four arbors that sit in a rectangular
pattern, creating an open air area with no walls or roof. If he moves it away from the house 10-
ft, then he violates the easements on the back side.
As there were no others wishing to speak, Vice Chairman Stephens closed the public hearing.
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C.4 DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF A TEXTUAL CHANGE TO THE TOWN OF
TROPHY CLUB CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 13-ZONING, ARTICLE V-
SUPPLEMENTARY DISTRICT REGULATIONS, SECTION 5.03 ACCESSORY
STRUCTURES AND USES, SUBSECTION “D” LOCATION, TO ALLOW DETACHED
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES TO BE BUILT CLOSER THAN TEN (10) FEET TO
PRIMARY DWELLING. (ADM-08-029)
Commissioner Reed asked if the typographical correction could be part of the motion. Ms.
Huggins stated that it could not as advertising of this case was for Subsection “D” only. The
typographical error is in a different part of Section 5.03.
Vice Chairman Stephens asked if other staff had comments regarding this request. Ms.
Huggins reported that the Fire Chief reviewed the changes requested by staff and the Fire
Chief supports the changes. The Fire Chief approves of the request that the addition be fire
sprinkled if the entire structure exceeds 7,500 sq. ft. Commissioner Ashby asked if the note in
Subsection “D” makes it clear that only the addition must be sprinkled rather the entire
structure. Commissioner Sheridan pointed out that the wording is “entire accessory structure”
must be sprinkled.
Commissioner Reed asked if the entire main dwelling and accessory structure would be
required to be sprinkled on new construction. Chris King, Building Inspector, stated that the
entire structure of any new construction over 6,000 sq. ft. in size must be sprinkled.
Commissioner Ashby asked if there is a minimum for the 10-ft. rule. Staff is requesting “less
than 10-ft.” but what is the minimum? 5-ft.? 2-ft.? Building Inspector, Chris King, responded
that if the structure is as little as 6-inches apart from the main dwelling, it is considered
detached. The building code is not going to specify a distance. Commissioner Ashby stated
that there is nothing saying that a pergola, cabana, or whatever, couldn’t have a 4-ft. wainscot
around it which would prevent a firefighter from running through and around the columns to
access that building. “That’s my concern. This change will take accessibility and eliminate it.”
Vice Chairman Stephens responded that it hasn’t been eliminated. Commissioner Ashby
responded that it has been hampered. Commissioner Sheridan stated that in a massive
commercial construction he would agree. But, this is housing. A 20x20 pergola wouldn’t be
tough to get around and with this change the structure would be inside the building pad. So he
doesn’t feel that a specific distance from the house is necessary. Commissioner Forest, citing
the pergola in his backyard as an example of a structure that could easily be gotten around if a
fire occurred, agreed with Commissioner Sheridan.
Vice Chairman Stephens stated that he sees some limitations for design and space
constraints. He stated that the Chief Building Inspector has indicated that we are already
constrained by space in most cases on most lots.
Commissioner Ashby stated that there are larger lots coming forward with the new
development and who is to say that someone won’t come in with a 100x100 pergola. That just
multiples the firefighters efforts tenfold.
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Commissioner Sheridan asked the Building Inspector if the older parts of Town have
percentage of lot coverage outside deed restrictions. Mr. King responded that the older parts
of Town do have lot coverage; not all, but most. [Straight zoning such as R-12, R-10, etc.,
have 35% lot coverage requirements; other zoning such as R-FV (Fairway Village) (which are
3,000 sq. ft. lots with zero lot lines) and R-TT (Avenue Twenty) do not have a lot coverage
requirement.] Mr. King stated that for a lot that is subject to lot coverage, an accessory
structure would count toward that lot coverage. If the homeowner wants to pull a permit for an
accessory structure, staff looks at the footprint on the site plan and adds the accessory
structure to it. If it exceeds the allowed lot coverage, the applicant must shrink it down to the
allowed percentage.
Commissioner Sheridan asked if this affects commercial property. Mr. King responded that it
does not affect commercial property.
Commissioner Sheridan asked if there is a defined term for outdoor kitchen, arbors, pergolas,
etc. Mr. King responded that there are defined terms. A pergola, for instance, is “an arbor or
passageway of columns for growing plants”. Commissioner Sheridan asked if that is from the
IRC (International Residential Code) and Mr. King responded that it is from the IRC.
Commissioner Sheridan asked if there is a height restriction for pergolas. Mr. King responded
that Town regulations do not allow accessory structures to exceed one story in height.
Commissioner Sheridan asked how Staff chose 7,500 sq. ft. versus the Fire Code that says
6,000 sq. ft. when the Town is under the Fire Code regulations, and it is Mr. Sheridan’s
understanding that when someone alters the building and brings the entire building in excess
of 6,000, the whole thing must be sprinkled (retrofitted). Mr. King responded that when the
Fire Code states “altered”, it can refer to an addition, repair, or expansion of the main building.
Mr. King called neighboring cities, Colleyville, Keller, Southlake, Ft. Worth, and although we
are putting in our ordinance that we are considering it to be attached and to be sprinkled, it is
not technically attached. It doesn’t share a common roof or attic under roof that defines it as
attached. It is still an accessory structure and we wish to stay uniform with the North Central
Texas Council of Government cities. Those cities have chosen the 7,500 sq. ft. number for
main dwelling and accessory structures and we would like to stay uniform with our neighboring
towns and adopt that number. Fire Chief Thomas and Mr. King have discussed retrofitting and
concluded that requiring retrofitting would not be practical.
Commissioner Ashby asked if that coincides with the National Building Code and National Fire
Code. Have we made amendments to our codes to include these requirements? Mr. King
responded that amendments are not needed because the Town follows the 2003 International
Codes, including Fire Code, and the Town cannot make anything less restrictive than what the
Code allows. This change proposed by staff would be in compliance with the 2003
International Codes.
Commissioner Sheridan asked for the addition of “new” to the verbiage in red in Subsection D.
He also asked that (at a future meeting) changes be made to Section F. Design Criteria, to
include arbors, outdoor kitchens, etc., to bring that section up-to-date.
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Commissioner Sheridan asked if there is any accessory structure that should not go against
the house. Does this open Pandora’s Box to something that we don’t want in Town? Mr. King
responded that he doesn’t see footage stipulations from a structural or safety aspect. There
isn’t a structural issue. However, staff did put in requirements that if excavating for a pool,
which is considered an accessory structure as well, and the design requires digging closer
than 6-ft. to the house, the slab must stay intact. Commissioner Ashby asked if that verbiage
could be changed to any accessory structure that is excavated for foundation footing that is
closer than 6-ft. or less from the main dwelling, must be engineered and stamped by a
structural engineer. Mr. King responded that he would agree that is a good idea.
Commissioner Sheridan stated that he would like to include in the recommendation to Council
that any existing accessory structure that is out of compliance with the current ordinance, but
would be in compliance under the revised ordinance, be grandfathered in, permitted or not.
Vice Chairman Stephens stated that he would like to remind the Commission members that
the Fire Marshall has reviewed this and he is in favor of this change, which addresses life
safety issues through his eyes as he is our life safety expert on City staff. Vice Chairman
Stephens called for a motion.
Commissioner Ashby asked that in the motion his request for “stamped plans by a structural
engineer” be changed to “all applicable engineers”.
Commissioner Sheridan made a motion recommending approval of this textual change request
with the following stipulations:
• Add the word “new” to the following sentence in Subsection D: “If the total square feet
under roof (including said accessory structures) exceed 7500 sq/ft then the entire new
accessory structure must be protected with a sprinkler system.
• Add “or any accessory structure” and other changes requested by Commissioner
Ashby to the following sentence in Subsection D: “If the waters edge of a swimming
pool, or any accessory structure that is excavated for foundation footing is
located six (6) feet or closer to the primary dwelling, an engineer’s letter, stamped by
all applicable engineers, stating the excavation will not in any way harm the structural
integrity of the primary dwelling, will be required at the time of plan submittal.”
• Any existing accessory structure that is out of compliance with the current ordinance,
but would be in compliance under the revised ordinance, is grandfathered in, permitted
or not.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Reed.
Ayes: Stephens, Reed, Sheridan, Forest, Ashby
Nays: None
Action: 5-0, Approved
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C.5 PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER TEXTUAL CHANGES TO THE TOWN OF
TROPHY CLUB CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 13-ZONING, ARTICLE VII-
DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS, SECTION 7.03 LANDSCAPING
REGULATIONS.
Staff requests that this item be removed from the agenda. Staff will bring this item back to the
Planning and Zoning Commission at a future date, after appropriate notification of Public
Hearing. Vice Chairman Stephens noted that there are no residents in attendance wishing to
address this item. The Planning & Zoning Commission, by consensus, removed this item
from the agenda.
D.1 ADJOURNMENT.
Vice Chairman Stephens adjourned the meeting at 7:59 p.m.