Minutes P&Z 12/20/2012Trophy Club Entities
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Planning & Zoning Commission
Thursday, December 20, 2012
100 Municipal Drive
Trophy Club, Texas 76262
7:00 PM Svore Municipal Building Boardroom
CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCE A QUORUM
Chairman Hill called the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting to order at 7:02
p.m. and announced a quorum present (7 members).
COMMISSION MEMBERS:
Present: 7- Vice Chair James Stephens, Commissioner Dennis Sheridan,
Commissioner Dale Forest, Chairman Gene Hill, Commissioner Clayton
Reed, Commissioner Joe Lancor, and Commissioner Mark Sadley
STAFF PRESENT.
Carolyn Huggins, Community Development Director
GUESTS PRESENT.
Mehran Aghili, Northwest ISD
Rob Morse, RLK Engineering
Mark Leatherwood, Balfour Beatty Construction
1. 2012-634-T Review and approve minutes of the December 6, 2012 Planning and
Zoning Commission meeting.
Attachments: MeetingMinutes 120612.pdf
A motion was made by Commissioner Forest, seconded by Vice Chair
Stephens, that this Agenda Item be Approved. The motion carried by the
following vote.
Aye: 7 - Vice Chair Stephens, Commissioner Sheridan, Commissioner Forest,
Chairman Hill, Commissioner Reed, Commissioner Lancor, and
Commissioner Sadley
REGULAR SESSION
2. 2012-644-T Discussion and take appropriate action to consider allowing construction
at Lakeview Elementary School during the holiday break, December 21,
2012 to January 2, 2013.
Attachments: Staff Report - PZ 122012 -Temporary Construction. pdf
Chairman Hill announced the case and asked the applicant to come forward.
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Mehran Aghili, Director of Construction, Northwest ISD, stated that they are adding to
Lakeview Elementary for opening of August 2013. The purpose is to increase the
student capacity from 450 students to 650. They need to add about 8 classrooms to
the existing building and do a major renovation inside and outside. Rob Morse is the
civil engineer for the project. The contractor, BBC, is also present.
Mr. Aghili gave a PowerPoint presentation that included the exterior look of the
school after renovation as well as an explanation of some of the interior work to be
done. They will not disturb the soccer fields. This project will extend the front
driveway to provide more stacking. They will add to the gymnasium and cafeteria.
The first part of this project involves doing whatever it takes to alleviate the traffic
jams in the street, therefore, they are requesting a permit to extend the front driveway
during the school holiday break. They will then comeback with the second part of
the project which is for full site plan approval. For now, permission is requested to do
the front drive, to create one classroom in the library, and to cut a door between 404
and 406 to allow kids to go from one room to the next as room 406 is a special
students classroom and they have equipment in room 404 and to access that
equipment they will cut a door through the wall.
Rob Morse, RLK Engineering, then went into more detail with the Commissioners on
what construction would occur during the holiday break. When the front drive is
extended, about 300 -ft. of additional stacking will be created. This will allow the
current parent drop-off to be shut off when the site construction begins (after P&Z
and Council site plan approval). Other work will include a small portion of the
sanitary sewer and a stub across the exit drive for a future waterline. Water will
sheet drain off the new driveway and run along the west side of the site to the rear of
the property. A detention pond will be added to the northeast corner of the site and it
will drain into an existing drainage channel running behind the property. Underground
pipes will connect all around the building and from the roof to the detention pond.
There will be a new fire loop added to the site. There are two fire hydrants out in
front, but that work will not be done until the building permit is issued for the entire
site.
Chairman Hill asked for questions from the Commissioners.
Commissioner Sheridan stated that typically he would like to see a drainage plan with
queues before doing anything. He would like to see drainage with the site plan. Is
there any change in the queues or the volume or direction that is going to affect the
property line? Mr. Morse responded that they are adding impervious area to the site
so overall discharge will increase but they are adding a detention pond to reduce their
discharge to existing levels. They will not be impacting or adding downstream.
Commissioner Sheridan asked if they will see a grading plan. He asked if they will be
coming back to P&Z just for a permit for the building. Ms. Huggins responded that
they will be coming back to the Planning and Zoning Commission for site plan
approval.
Commissioner Sheridan would like the MUD added to Note Number 1 on Sheet C2.
Also on Number 10 the SWPP was mentioned. Do you already have one? The
contractor responded that they will be turning it in tomorrow.
Commissioner Sheridan asked if the Town was requiring a tree removal mitigation
plan. Ms. Huggins responded that it will be part of the site plan. Mr. Sheridan asked
if the temporary approval affects the mitigation plan. Ms. Huggins responded that it
doesn't.
Ms. Huggins asked to make a clarification that involves trees. She stated that at the
last meeting Commissioner Sadley has asked about the distance from the adjacent
residential to the east and the driveway and Ms. Huggins had indicated that a 40 -ft.
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buffer would be required. That is not correct. The zoning for the school is R-12
which does not require a buffer. The drive way distance from adjacent residential
along the east side of the site varies in distance from 25 -ft. to 38 -ft. The school
district plans to add trees along the east side to act as a buffer between the property
line and the drive way.
Commissioner Sheridan asked what the agreement is with the Town for the soccer
field use. Mr. Aghili responded that it was put in writing a long time ago for the Town
to use the field as a soccer field. Commissioner Sheridan asked if it affects this
consideration in any way. Ms. Huggins responded that it does not. She stated that
the expansion and landscaping does not impact the soccer fields. The landscape
plan, for instance, only takes into account the phased portion of this project, that is,
the expansion area. They will not have to include the square footage of the soccer
fields in the calculation of what needs to be landscaped.
Commissioner Sheridan stated that Note #4 on page 3 of 11 mentions sleeving. Mr.
Morse explained where sleeving will take place but explained that none will be done
with this phase.
Commissioner Sheridan asked about ADA compliance. Mr. Morse pointed out where
the sidewalks will be located and that they will be ADA compliant.
Commissioner Lancor asked if there were any areas outside the clouded area that
would be constructed during the holiday break. Mr. Aghili responded that there are
two temporary walls that will be constructed. One for the library and one for the
gymnasium. Commissioner Lancor asked them to point out on his plans what they
were referring to. They did so. Commissioner Lancor asked about a note referring to
removal of a grease trap. Mr. Morse responded that the note refers to future
construction not under consideration this evening. Mr. Lancor asked if there is
exterior lighting addition in this. Mr. Morse responded that there is none with this
request this evening. Mr. Lancor asked if there will be all night construction lighting
or music to accompany or anything like that. Mr. Morse, Mr. Aghili and the contractor
all responded, `No sir"
Mr. Lancor asked if all of the trees are being removed. Mr. Morse responded that not
all will be removed at this time; only the trees in the clouded area will be removed to
allow the new pavement. Mr. Lancor asked for confirmation that these will be
accounted for in the landscape plan that the Planning and Zoning Commission will
see later? Mr. Morse responded, "That's correct."
Mr. Lancor asked if the paving will have to come out when the building additions are
constructed. Mr. Morse went over again what will be demolished and what will
remain. Mr. Lancor then stated, "So, the bulk of that loop that is going to be put in is
going to be taken back out." Mr. Morse responded, "No, not the new one." Mr.
Lancor asked for this to be pointed out on his plans. Mr. Morse did so.
Chairman Hill asked for additional questions. There were none and he called for a
motion.
A motion was made by Commissioner Sheridan, seconded by Commissioner
Reed, that this Agenda Item be Approved. The motion carried by the following
vote.
Aye: 7 - Vice Chair Stephens, Commissioner Sheridan, Commissioner Forest,
Chairman Hill, Commissioner Reed, Commissioner Lancor, and
Commissioner Sadley
3. 2012-635-T Discussion of permitted uses in zoning districts, Article III of Chapter 13 of
the Town of Trophy Club Code of Ordinances.
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Attachments: Article III, Chapter 13 - Zoning Ord Use Tables.pdf
Chairman Hill announced the discussion and asked Ms. Huggins for any statement.
Ms. Huggins asked the Commissioners for a general idea of some of the changes
they would like to see made to the Use Tables and she would then research the
requested changes and bring the Tables back to the Commissioners as many times
as needed until they feel it is in the format they desire to take forward to Council.
Commissioner Lancor suggested that it could be simplified with a whole lot of the
"P's" changing to "C's" because you've got to allow for cell towers somewhere but you
do need to have oversight. And, the industry has changed in the care for disabled
and nursing and convalescent homes. There has gotten to be a broader offering.
There are the very inexpensive ones where they are compact and I've seen attempts
to label a minimum room size on them as a way of characterizing what they are and
the idea of a decent full time convalescent facility adjacent to residential is not a bad
thing if done properly. It's good for everybody. It's the lower cost varieties that are
causing the difficulties — the higher density ones. On that, it may be that you have to
break down and do a density control item. I've seen that per the minimum room sizes
and minimum onsite facilities. It doesn't seem like there is anything that we can
completely throw out of the boat.
Commissioner Sheridan stated that he disagrees. He said that State regulations
have more to do with you can't prevent them from doing this... it doesn't mean you
have to include it in your chart. For example, churches can go in anywhere. You
can't stop them. They can go in any zoning but that doesn't mean you have to put a
church on this piece of paper that says they can go there. On Page 16, under NS
district it talks about low impact service facilities, not including retail uses. I'm going
to go through everything, but I wanted to make that point that just because State law
may require to have them and we can't discriminate against them doesn't mean we
have to go solicit them. On page 19, under residential uses I would like to delete
number 9, Home of Developmentally Disabled. If someone wants to come to us and
say they want to do that type of project, they can ask for a variance. Under number
15, 1'd like to delete the word "orphanage". Under that category I'd like to change the
"P's" to all "C's" under "NS". Make retirement homes a "C" Switching to page 21 and
22, remove the retail uses since "NS" is not meant to be for retail uses.
Chairman Hill stated that there are only two categories that have an "S" under "NS"
are `beer and wine sales" and "sales of mixed beverages in restaurants".
Commissioner Sheridan stated that ultimately he is envisioning that hard corner to be
sold off and developed as retail. He believes that is a beautiful retail site and "we
ought to encourage it because we need the retail on that hard corner". But, 1'd like to
see a special use requirement for that corner.
Commissioner Sadley asked for the definition for a utility facility (Line 17 on page 20).
Is that power and water or is that also something like a Telecom brick building sealer
up with air conditioners going all day? Commissioner Sheridan replied that it could
be anything from a transformer station with open chain link fence to... whatever... but
I'm trying not to put my prejudice against municipal buildings and ask them to be
removed to since they are non -tax paying organizations.
Commissioner Sadley stated that his wife and he used to be involved quite a bit in
working with various nursing homes and the room size is very applicable to quality
not in just the building but in the traffic through Town. He thinks there out to be some
way to address that in advance of a crisis, if possible.
Commissioner Sheridan stated that would be addressed in other pages of the
document. Based on the last meeting I only addressed my email to the chart, but if
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we are playing with the chart we are opening up the whole document. We could turn
number 17 to "C's". Ms. Huggins stated that in the zoning ordinance the definition for
"Utility, Distribution Lines" is `facilities which serve to distribute and transmit electrical
power, gas and water, including but not limited to electrical transmission lines, gas
transmission lines and metering stations".
Commissioner Sheridan said that if it comes in as a 'P" then they can do anything
they want. If it's a "C'; then we can have landscaping (which dies) around the cell
towers, or fencing or masonry or something. We have more control over what goes
there. I would recommend we take the 'P's" across the board and turn them into
"C's" and also broaden the scope to review the definitions of these facilities.
Commissioner Reed asked if the Commissioners were recommending that minimum
size rooms be set for nursing home type facilities. He stated that retirement homes
and nursing homes are getting horribly expensive and he can imagine that people
that have lived here in Trophy Club 30 years like he has and it comes time to move
into one of these homes and he wouldn't need a big place. A place with small rooms
could be best. He questions getting involved in telling people how big they have to
make the rooms. There are some people who will want big rooms and other people
will pay less because they can only afford the small rooms.
Commissioner Sheridan stated that is a current conversation in his house because
they are both retired and they don't need a big house. At the same time, he still owns
a house in a neighborhood and he wants to maintain the quality of his neighborhood
within the culture that he has grown accustomed to. This is one of those things
where he would like reasonable limitations or requirements that would maintain his
property value. He isn't sure what reasonable is. He doesn't need a big house or big
rooms either, so he agrees with Commissioner Reed, but he also is saying that there
aren't a whole lot of affordable retirement areas in this area. At the same time, if we
bring in something that is affordable, I don't want it next to my house.
Vice Chairman Stephens stated that his mother is currently a resident in the St. Louis
area in a place called Delmar Gardens. It is huge and they have several locations in
the area. His mother has a roommate. You go down a hallway and that opens up
into a big area that is a dining hall for that group of people. There are PT rooms and
rooms for worship. He stated that he was dumbfounded at how beautiful it was when
he walked into the place. It is expensive, but they have the facilities and personnel
there to do the other things you might want to do — like bridge, golf, fishing, etc.
Chairman Hill stated that there is a broad range in these facilities from people who
are pretty self-sufficient and mobile across to reaching a point where there is assisted
living with full time nursing — a full time nursing home. He stated that he is seeing his
sister-in-law approaching extreme end of care and yet there are a lot of people
moving from housing to living, in the preliminary stages, where they are fairly
self-sufficient. The spectrum is quite wide and it depends on how much money is
available when entering into that type of place.
Vice Chairman Stephens stated that it is hard to legislate.
Commissioner Reed stated that it is a pretty touchy subject and he suggested that
the Commission think "old" as they try to put this together.
Referred to the Planning & Zoning Commission due back on 01/03/2013
Meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m.
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